Podcast · 2021 · 中文
We Need Not Only Art, but Much Beyond It: Reflections on Song Ta's Uglier and Uglier我们不仅需要艺术，也需要很多艺术之外的事：围绕宋拓作品"校花"展出的思考
See also: Making a Book, Caring for Each Other and the World, a talk with the Stochastic Volatility hosts, Shanghai, 2024.